Like a Chevy short block?.........

 

I don't have that info they read it to me from a paper they had and right now my car is in for repairs replacing all parts involved including a new short block.

 

Short block?

 

Sure...........

 

check engine light on and road hazard comes on

took car to dealership and there is a message out that the cam shaft has a problem in it causing metal filings in engine to attach themselves to the check engine sensor need to get this problem fix mine started burning oil too.

 

took car to dealership and there is a message out that the cam shaft has a problem in it causing metal filings in engine to attach themselves to the check engine sensor need to get this problem fix mine started burning oil too.

Can you please post the specific TSB or RRT that states a "camshaft issue causes metal filings to attach themselves to the check engine sensor?
@DodgeCACares - you hear anything like this?

 

My grill shutter assembly was throwing my CEL. Had to be replaced (under warranty.) No problem since.

 

My CEL came on after installing my BOV...I read somewhere (I think it was here) that putting on a BOV would set off a code, but haven't checked to see what the code is actually from yet.

 

I don't know about that. Power washing a motorcycle can screw up a lot of things too but I never heard anyone say that it was because of "build issues." They can be detrimental to parts of a car if you are not careful and now I guess we can add grill shutters to that list.

 

I just had my CEL come on last night. I read through this thread and decided to check my shutters to see if I have the same issue. I was power washing off the bugs and that seems like it may have been enough to possibly damage these because I see all of them closed except for one vent. I think this is definitely a build quality issue.

 

Uh.. no.. with all due respect TD.. it is a user control issue
Watch what you're hitting with the full power spray...
Do you claim "build quality issues" if you power wash the engine without first covering, say, the air intake?

 

P1D73-AGS PERFORMANCE

When Monitored:
With the engine running and battery voltage between 11.0 and 16.0 volts. Ambient Air Temperature or Engine Coolant Temperature above —7°C (19.4°F).

Set Condition:
The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) receives a message from the Active Grill Shutter Actuator that the open to close position travel is above 160 degrees or the mechanical stop was detected before the commanded position was reached.

Possible Causes
ACTIVE GRILL SHUTTER OBSTRUCTED/BINDING
ACTIVE GRILL SHUTTER ACTUATOR

 

P1D73 is the bane of my existance for the little yellow .... annoyance. Funny thing is my scanner (which I admit isn't up to date) popped up that code but had no idea what it meant.

According to my dealer's worksheet... P1D73 - AGS PERFORMANCE. AGS I ASSume means Active Grille Shutters.

Nice idea but I hope they are not as fragile as they appear.

 

It came on one more time the next night, then not in the last dozen or so times. I figure one more time and it's strike 3, into the dealer.

 

well... any resolution?

 

that shouldn't set a code. best get your dealer to diagnose it.

 

I think I have found what has caused my CEL. If I push the start button before I press the brake pedal, I get the light. I have repeated the process to verify the result.
This won't be an issue if and when I get used to having to press the brake to start the car.

 

Sounds like it's got a bad sensor, or a sensor/plug with a bad connection.

 

darts use the new CUSW bus communication architecture which your scanner may not support.
that being said, found these 3 matches;
U1106-CAN C SIGNAL MISSING (generated by TCM/DDCT)
U1106-88-CAN C SIGNAL MISSING - BUS OFF (generated by BCM)
U1106-87-CAN C SIGNAL MISSING - MISSING MESSAGE (generated by BCM)

 

I have an actron CP9580 scanner, updated. It wouldn't find my car, but it ran the scan. Gotta have the car set to run if you have keyless.

Only code I get is U1106, DTC definition not found. When I look it up, closest I can find on recent Dodges is CAN C Signal Missing. Don't know if that's correct or not for the Dart, or what that means.

The CEL still hasn't come back on, so maybe it's nothing.

 

I've got a scanner. It's at my shop, so I will scan it when I go in tomorrow.

 

Drive by an AutoZone or ORilleys, they can read the code and tell you what tripped, its still stored in the computer. Or buy a scanguage and have the ablity to read the codes (you will need to look the code up on the internet as the guage will only tell you something like P2023).

 

I had the light tonight. Just as I started out, noticed it. Turned the car off, back on, still there. No messages on the tft, just the cel. Drove rest of the way home, turned off the car, back on, still there. Got out, back in, started car, gone.......

One would think that with everything this car has, it could at least give a general idea in the message area of what is tripping the light.

Just hoping the car had a brain fart, that it doesn't come back.

 

After picking up the car the chirp sound is gone they also replaced a broken rear mount on the trans. WTF... also this slum dealer charged me $420 just for labor to replace the lower grill that cost 29.95. I kept the old one and it did have a small crack about the size of a quarter. I personally know I did not hit anything and they are sticking with that story " I must have hit something". Dodge corporate did not help at all!!! Next step is I called wanting to speak to the general manager and am waiting on his call back. I spoke with the dealer this morning after I picked up the car and it sill makes rattle noise going over bumps. The service gal was a rude one! I can't believe I'm saying this but I am Losing my faith in MOPAR all my vehicles are Mopar and I hate when dealers talk to you like you know nothing about cars.

 

I am just curious if the dealership you are going to is a 5 star one? I've heard from others if it's not a 5 star dealership you're taking a big chance. I've owned several new Jeeps and Dodges over the years and have only ever dealt with 5 star and they've always made good on most things. The only thing I can remember them not honoring was when the "chrome" step rails on my husbands Ram started to peel. We had them put on by the dealership when we bought it so it wasn't factory installed and we were SOL. But I have a feeling if I was to go in with something like your grill issue they'd take care of it even if it was just for the sake of a good customer/dealership relationship.

 

If enough of them get damaged, they may redesign or use different material.
Until we see pics of the damage, all we can do is speculate.

 

Then in my opinion it's a bad design chicken there's a difference between something like a windsheild that would probably get hit compared to a grill shutter that's shouldn't accorrding to the pictures I have seen of them.

 

Thanks I am waiting to hear on this cause if they treat you bad over this I'll go else where for a new ride.

 

would you be seeking warranty coverage if the rock had cracked your windshield? just sayin'.

 

If, in both cases, the rock was the size of the pebble, I would say that the problem is with the design and manufacture of the windshield or louvers. If the rock was the size of a baseball, then nope that is accidental damage. Put it this way: Would you expect your car to break going down an "average" dirt road at 20 MPH? No. Absolutely not. If something hurts your car going down a normal dirt road (pebbles, bumps, normal washboard) then I'd say that what ever broke was not designed properly.

The louvers are in a spot that they should be strong enough to handle "normal road debris". I wouldn't expect them to handle a thunder-bunny like what tangled with my other car, but on the other hand a small rock or something like that: Yeah. They should be made out of heat and UV resistant fiberglass reinforced plastic if they are being subject to normal road conditions. Would you expect your bumper cover to crack because it was hit with a pebble? (sure, if the rock is the size of a baseball all bets are off, but something the size of a marble shouldn't break something on the front of the vehicle).

Here's where I'm coming from: I got this P1D73 code today. I drove ~50 miles from work to home. The last 2.3 miles are 45 MPH or less. My last quarter mile is 10 - 20 MPH.

Seconds before I got to my driveway (we're talking 75 feet from my driveway) my CEL comes on. I cruise into the driveway gently, stop the engine, put the ignition to "On" without starting and read the P1D73 code. I go inside and look it up and get my other car ready to take to work tomorrow. By then it is dark outside and only then did I know what P1D73 means thanks to you! Seriously, Thank You, Fnky!!! I really appreciate you and the information you share!

However, to address your point: In the daylight tomorrow, if it turns out my louvers are damaged in any way, yes I expect them to be replaced under warranty. I absolutely did not hit anything on my way to work or on my way home today. Not so much as a "dink" "tink" sound. I was not behind anyone. Traffic was very light. If something that small can break the louver then it needs to be made stronger. If I hit something large, then I absolutely expect to buy the part myself and install it. It all comes down to what is reasonable.

I've owned 5 Chrysler vehicles. 1 of them had a sun visor that broke in the first few weeks of owning it. It was a plastic formulation problem. By the time I owned that vehicle numerous other people already had problems with it and Chrysler had a newer stronger clip that never broke again. So, yes, there are things that break under normal conditions that should not have broken which should be covered under the warranty. There are also things that break under abnormal conditions and those things should not be warranty issues.

The Crapinental Tires that came with my original Magnum RT died in less than 20k miles. Considering I drove 80 miles a day, highway, to work and back and I kept my tires aired up properly, there is absolutely no way they should have died that soon. So, yep, you can bet that was a warranty issue, too. I wasn't alone in that situation either.

Just in these 5 vehicles I've had (4 of which I still own now) there have been a number of issues that could been looked at either way, but in the end they were all warranty issues because of bad materials to begin with. Could these louvers have the same problem? Not sure, but it's not outside of the realm of possibility.

Now, go right ahead and flog me for replying to you on something 2 years later... I totally deserve it. But keep in mind: I did do a search to try and find the info I needed before I bugged the awesome and incomparable Mr. P. Have a good one, Mr. P.