Isn't it odd that that the EPA says it's OK without doing research of their own? In a nutshell ethanol has less energy than regular gas. Less performance. Less mpg. Just what I've read. I would avoid more ethanol whenever possible.

 

There's more to the story than just saying less power.... That's not true

 

I despise ethanol, it is such a terrible idea. You do not turn food into fuel, you drive the price of food way up. And the fact that is has so much less energy than gasoline makes it pointless, you ruin your mpg. And it is very corrosive, often it is put into the same old underground storage tanks as gasoline and it causes deposits in the tank to break down and gum up the fuel.
The one benefit ethanol does have is much higher octane rating so it could be beneficial for turbo motors.

 

You can make more power...
Engine runs cooler...
Considered renewable...
Can be cheaper than gas...
Sure you do get less mpg because you use more fuel to make more power.... Because stoich a/f ratio for ethanol is higher than that of gasoline, but you make more power and can save money this way....

 

The "gas cap" on my car says that E85 is OK to run in my naturally aspirated 2.0 engine. Give a choice I would buy gasoline without any Ethanol in at all in it. Ethanol is very corrosive and hygroscopic as well. For my two cents it causes more trouble than it is worth. Sorry.

On my 2013 Dart

 

The "gas cap" on my car says that E85 is OK to run in my naturally aspirated 2.0 engine. Give a choice I would buy gasoline without any Ethanol in at all in it. Ethanol is very corrosive and hygroscopic as well. For my two cents it causes more trouble than it is worth. Sorry.

Really? Since when were they flex fuel? Or don't you own a dart.

 

The 1.4l and 2.0l engine are not Flexible fuel vehicles. Per the owners manual, you should not use fuel that contains more than 10% ethanol. E15 is 15% ethanol and should not be used.

Owners manual Caution!
DO NOT use gasoline containing Methanol or gasoline containing more than 10% Ethanol. Use of these blends may result in starting and driveability problems, damage critical fuel system components, cause emissions to exceed the applicable standard, and/or cause the “Malfunction Indicator Light” to illuminate. Pump labels should clearly communicate if a fuel contains greater than 10% Ethanol.

That being said it is one tank, I really don't think it should hurt. Drive gently and don't use it again. I have little choice in the northeast, all we have is 10%, and i use 91 or 93 in the 1.4 turbo with no problem. Just never use E85. That may cause huge problems.

 

My cap only has the warning about being sure it is replaced tightly.

 

It's just another case of a groups agenda trying to force it's views on others. The EPA expedites it's "studies" on the environment for things they support but if they don't support it they'll study for years.

 

Folks like these are the ones getting the true subsidies, they buy all that cheap corn. Our farmers get screwed.
Cargill: Our company.

 

My 2.0 is E85 rated, but i don't use ethanol because its about .20 cents cheaper a gallon then unleaded where I live, but gets about 80% the mileage. Regular unleaded is 2.85 at my local gas station right now. That means that E85 would need to cost 2.28 a gallon for it to even break even with unleaded for the mileage.