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#1 ·
Hello all,

I was a silent lurker here since I bought my 2015 GT new. Up until about an hour ago, I was able to look through the forum with no problems, many of my questions answered without needing an account. No, its telling me I need to register and make 5 posts to gain full access.... So here is post #1. Thank you.
 
#4 ·
Yeah sorry about that. We have been having a lot of issues with spam accounts, and that is probably one of the side effects from the admin team to look for. I understand that a lot of people, like yourself, do not use the forums and post. Just view and browse the information. Then there is people like me that post way too much and won't shut the hell up :wink: lol

A couple reply posts to this thread and you should be good to go! :)
 
#6 ·
welcome after so long :)
 
#7 ·
Nothing but headaches today. Popped a P0128 about 3 weeks ago. Added some coolant and it went away for a day. Now it's been on for 2 weeks and 2 weeks ago I made an appointment with dodge service.

I get there this morning only to be told they can't do anything because my platinum extended warranty plan is 3rd party and they can't contact them on the weekends. Then they asked if I would like to pay $150 to see what code is being thrown..... I already know because oreilly checked it for free.

The offered for me to drop the car off Monday and use their shuttle to get to and from my job. Problem is, I get off at 6pm and their shuttle stops at 4pm.

I'm at the point now, scouring threads and websites finding anything on how to change the thermostat. I've tried disconnecting the battery to clear codes, but it only lasts for a few minutes.

Other than that... cars is my daily driver. Only getting about 25.5mpg currently. 2015 GT 2.4l
 
#9 ·
28 - DTC-Based Diagnostics / MODULE, Powertrain Control (PCM), 2.4L / Diagnosis and Testing

P0128-THERMOSTAT RATIONALITY

For a complete wiring diagram, refer to the Wiring Information.


When Monitored and Set Conditions

When Monitored: This diagnostic runs when the following conditions are met:

•With the engine running.
•Start up coolant temperature less than 65°C (149°F).
•Ambient temperature between -8°C (17.6°F) and 50°C (122°F).
•Average vehicle speed greater than 16 km/h (10 mph) until coolant temperature reaches 85°C.
•Engine speed does not go above 5400 rpm for more than 32 seconds.
•The pass/fail determination point is reached when the coolant temp model reaches 88°C (190.4°F).


Set Conditions:

•The predicted coolant temperature reaches the target threshold before the actual coolant temperature and the PCM detects that the actual engine coolant temperature is too far below the what is acceptable for a good thermostat.


Default Actions:

•MIL light will illuminate.


Possible Causes

LOW COOLANT LEVEL
COOLING SYSTEM ISSUES
THERMOSTAT OPERATION


Cooling / Engine / THERMOSTAT / Removal

2.0L/2.4L

CAUTION:
Do not loosen radiator draincock with system hot and pressurized. Serious burns from coolant can occur.

CAUTION:
The Thermostat and housing is serviced as an assembly. Do not remove the thermostat from the housing, damage to the thermostat may occur.

1.Disconnect and isolate the negative battery cable. If equipped with an Intelligent Battery Sensor (IBS), disconnect the IBS connector first before disconnecting the negative battery cable.

2.Remove the engine cover.

3.Remove the battery (Refer to 08 - Electrical/Battery System/BATTERY/Removal) .

4.Remove the battery tray assembly (Refer to 08 - Electrical/Battery System/TRAY, Battery/Removal) .

5.Remove the belly pan (Refer to 13 - Frame and Bumpers/Under Body Protection/BELLY PAN/Removal) .

6.Drain the cooling system.

7.Lower vehicle.

8.Remove the brake vacuum pump (Refer to 09 - Engine/Cylinder Head/PUMP, Vacuum/Removal) .

9.Remove the three bolts that attach the PDC to the body.

10.Position the PDC to the side to allow for thermostat housing removal.

11.Remove the intake manifold upper support bracket (1) bolts (3).



12.Loosen but do not remove the bracket nuts (2).

NOTE: The bracket can not be removed at this time, loosening the nuts allow the necessary movement for the thermostat housing to be removed.

13.Remove the coolant recovery bottle return hose (1).



14.Disconnect the engine coolant temperature sensor harness connector (2).

15.Disconnect the forward most shift cable from the transmission lever.

16.Disconnect the quick-coupling and remove the heater core supply hose (4) . Pliers, Hose Clamp 10288

17.Using Special Tool 10288, release the clamps at the heater core return (5) and thermostat outlet (7).

18.Remove the heater core return hose (5).

19.Remove the thermostat outlet hose (7).

20.Remove the thermostat housing bolts (3).

21.Remove the thermostat housing (6) from the engine.



07 - Cooling / Engine / THERMOSTAT / Installation

2.0L/2.4L

CAUTION:
The Thermostat and housing is serviced as an assembly. Do not remove the thermostat from the housing, damage to the thermostat may occur.

1.Clean the mating surfaces on the engine block and thermostat housing.

2.Install new gasket seal onto the thermostat housing.

3.Pull the manifold bracket (1) slightly away from the engine to allow the housing to be installed.

4.Position the thermostat housing (6) in place.

5.Install the four housing bolts. Tighten bolts to 9 N·m (80 in. lbs.).

NOTE: Make sue the left lower bolt passes through the Adele clamp that secures the lower tube assembly to the housing.

6.Connect the cable to the transmission lever .

7.Install the thermostat outlet hose (7).

8.Install the heater core supply (4) and return hoses (5). Pliers, Hose Clamp 10288

9. Use Special Tool 10288 to secure the clamp at the heater core return hose (5) and the thermostat outlet (7).

10.Install the engine coolant temperature sensor (2). Plug in the connector.

11.Install the coolant recovery bottle return hose (1).

12.Tighten the bracket bolts (3) and nuts (2) to 9 N·m (80 in. lbs.).

13.Install the three PDC bolts. Tighten to 9 N·m (80 in. lbs.)

14.Install the battery tray (Refer to 08 - Electrical/Battery System/TRAY, Battery/Installation) .

15.Install the battery. Tighten the nut to 5 N·m (44 in. lbs.).

16.Install the brake vacuum pump (Refer to 09 - Engine/Cylinder Head/PUMP, Vacuum/Installation) .

17.Fill the cooling system (Refer to 07 - Cooling - Standard Procedure) .

18.Install the engine cover.


The procedure for refilling the cooling system has been posted and requires a special tool, UView Airlift, or similar. See this link:
http://www.dodge-dart.org/forum/dodge-dart-mechanical-problems/37402-cylinder-2-real-trouble-14.html
 
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#10 ·
Got the dart dropped off this morning to dodge. Hopefully the Platinum extended warranty covers what ever is wrong. I appreciate the info about the thermostat steps and the dart bible. Ill dive into that more on my work downtime.

Next, after this is fixed, is HPSI CAI/ram tube, MPx header and exhaust. Pretty much plan on buying whatever is available short of forced induction. But, ill start with those 3 first.
 
#13 · (Edited)
Wife asked me what I wanted for the Dart. I showed her the RRM Turbo and LVL10 transmission. She said no.... So I sent her this list instead.:crazy:

Madness Auto Flash
Dodge Dart GT AutoFlash by MADNESS Online Store - DART Parts and Accessories

HPSI Intake and Ram tube
https://shopeurocompulsion.net/coll...ts/eurocompulsion-dodge-dart-2-4l-2-0l-air-induction-system?variant=10687956033
https://shopeurocompulsion.net/coll...dart-engine/products/eurocompulsion-dodge-dart-ram-air-hose?variant=10688069057

Bored throttle body
https://www.modernperformance.com/p...throttle-body-dart-20l-24l-renegade-24l/13-16-dart-24l-engine-engine-components

lightweight pulley and tuner
https://roadracemotorsports.com/sto...s.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=141_197_198&products_id=1984

Header and exhaust
https://www.modernperformance.com/p...m-with-mufflers-package-dart/13-16-dart-24l-exhaust-exhaust-systems-and-headers

Hood And Trunk
https://www.modernperformance.com/p...bute-hood-pvo-style-trunk-package-dart/13-16-dart-24l-exterior-hoods-and-trunks

Roll Kit
https://www.modernperformance.com/product/eibach-swaybars-dart/13-16-dart-24l-suspension-and-chassis
https://www.modernperformance.com/p...mpx-polished-front-strut-bar-dart-20l-24l/13-16-dart-24l-suspension-and-chassis

Lip Kit
https://www.modernperformance.com/p...s-and-rear-diffuser-package-2013-16-dart/13-16-dart-24l-exterior-other-exterior

Transmission cooler
https://roadracemotorsports.com/sto...roduct_info&cPath=141_197_198&products_id=2427&zenid=p8gk06oj93bhqhcmbmc0ncodc3

MOPAR suspensioN
https://www.modernperformance.com/p...t/mopar-performance-coilover-suspension-dart/13-16-dart-24l-suspension-and-chas