[VladimirS]

So in reference to the "timing belt failure" thread in the 1.4 forum, its now on my mind and i'm just over 70,000 miles on my '13 6-speed and I'm scared to death to allow dealer techs open my engine up in any way for something like this...especially after they royally half assed the slave cylinder job for my clutch 2 years ago.
But anyways, I know some benz techs that I would trust with my car and may ask them.

So, has anyone replaced their belt yet before failure on your 1.4? If so, what mileage? What did it cost you? I know the manual says 150,000 miles, but reading that other thread, Fiat says 75,000 for the same 1.4...how can that be?

Thanks

I have replaced my belt before failure at 175k km / just over 100k miles. It was definitely late, the belts was cracked on every "tooth" but did not skip and engine was running fine, no chk engine light, timing was factory, so I took white paint, marked tooth and block/head with one precise dot each (they used to mark this in factories before but nowadays they want you to buy special tool to line it up). Carefully remove tensioner and belt, install new one, turn engine crank shaft two full rotations and make sure dots are matching again - voila. Make sure to change the tensioner and watch a vid on recommended tension, there`s marks on the tensioner itself so its super easy. I did not change the water pump but you can do that if you are already in there...
The cost was 165 for tensioner and 80 CAD for the original belt made in UK.

They make this service much more complicated and costly than it should be.

 

[Ryanblume]

I have replaced my belt before failure at 175k km / just over 100k miles. It was definitely late, the belts was cracked on every "tooth" but did not skip and engine was running fine, no chk engine light, timing was factory, so I took white paint, marked tooth and block/head with one precise dot each (they used to mark this in factories before but nowadays they want you to buy special tool to line it up). Carefully remove tensioner and belt, install new one, turn engine crank shaft two full rotations and make sure dots are matching again - voila. Make sure to change the tensioner and watch a vid on recommended tension, there`s marks on the tensioner itself so its super easy. I did not change the water pump but you can do that if you are already in there...
The cost was 165 for tensioner and 80 CAD for the original belt made in UK.

They make this service much more complicated and costly than it should be.

Funny I just did the timing belt on mine today and was going to chime in almost the same thing,. If you mark the belt where it mates and count the teeth on the new belt I wouldn't bother with the tool kit, I got the kit from Amazon and it was so sloppy I opted to leave the cam sprocket on and just install the belt without messing with the sprocket at all, I would've saved the aggravation of removing the vacuum pump and related bracket,. Also per the instructions I don't know why they want you to remove the belly pan and lower motor mounts on my 2013 I don't know what the benefit would be,. I think all in all I spent under 4 hrs changing the belt/water pump/ tensioner, would've been less if I left the belly pan and vacuum pump on

 

[Bluechang]

So in reference to the "timing belt failure" thread in the 1.4 forum, its now on my mind and i'm just over 70,000 miles on my '13 6-speed and I'm scared to death to allow dealer techs open my engine up in any way for something like this...especially after they royally half assed the slave cylinder job for my clutch 2 years ago.
But anyways, I know some benz techs that I would trust with my car and may ask them.

So, has anyone replaced their belt yet before failure on your 1.4? If so, what mileage? What did it cost you? I know the manual says 150,000 miles, but reading that other thread, Fiat says 75,000 for the same 1.4...how can that be?

Thanks

I think a lot of the confusion is the 2.0 and 2.4 use timing chains and the 1.4 uses a timing belt. I have never seen a timing belt last longer than 75,000 miles but its not uncommon for timing chains to last 100,000 to 150,000 miles.. I would error on the side of caution and replace the belt at 75,000 miles. I will be replacing my timing belt at 104,000 simply because I got the car after the belt should have been changed. But I am not absolutely sure it was changed so I am going to do it myself. I will be changing the water pump and tensioner at the same time.