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Dodge Dart 2015; driver side window is stuck in down mode. Replaced switch but still will not go up. Even happens when motor is removed. Motor works, just not up.
 

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Check your build sheet to see if you have One Touch Down or Express Up options.
Go to this link and type in your VIN.
https://fcacommunity.force.com/RAM/s/equipment-listing

Post your options. Diagnosis is different depending on your options. See if removing the motor and the two bolts under the bolt covers lets you move the window up by hand. You can remove the glass from the door and then see if the motor can go up without the glass. See this old post for door disassembly:
https://www.dodge-dart.org/forum/dodge-dart-general-discussion/63066-door-lock-dilemma.html
 

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I couldn't get the VIN thing to work. But the problem is not the window being stuck. I disconnected all the plugs, popped the door panel, pulled the motor, and then plugged it back in. As soon as the plug was engaged the motor started running without the switch being activated. When I would flip the switch to the "up" position the motor would stop, but it would not change directions; it just stopped. When the switch was released, the motor began running in the down direction automatically. The window glass itself is free. When the motor is removed the glass can be moved up and down by the glass. The issue is in the motor not disengaging from the "down" position.
 

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The build sheet should work if you are typing your VIN correctly. Try fro a PC instead of a phone.

08 - Electrical / 8N - Power Systems / Power Windows / Description

DESCRIPTION

The power window system allows each of the door windows to be raised and lowered electrically by actuating a switch on the trim panel of each respective door. A master switch on the driver side front door trim panel allows the driver to raise or lower each of the passenger door windows, and to lock out the individual switches on the passenger doors from operation. The power window system receives battery feed only when the ignition switch is in the RUN or ACCESSORY position. The power window system will also operate when in power accessory delay

Vehicles equipped with Express Up Windows are equipped with a door module. (Refer to 08 - Electrical/Power Windows/Operation/Standard Motor) for further information.

Vehicle equipped with One Touch Down (OTD) employ a Smart Window Motor. (Refer to 08 - Electrical/Power Windows/Operation/Smart Motor) for further information.




08 - Electrical / 8N - Power Systems / Power Windows / MOTOR, Window Regulator / Diagnosis and Testing

DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING - WINDOW MOTOR

NOTE: Even though the motor has a circuit breaker a fused jumper should be used to avoid any damage to the circuits.

1.Remove door trim panel. (Refer to 23 - Body/Door - Front/PANEL, Door Trim - Removal) .

2.Connect positive (+) lead from a test battery to either of the two motor terminals.

3.Connect negative (-) lead from test battery to remaining motor terminal.

4.The motor should now rotate in one direction to either move window up or down.
a.If window happens to already be in full UP position and motor is connected so as to move it in UP direction no movement will be observed.

b.Likewise, motor connected to move window in DOWN direction no movement will be observed if window is already in full DOWN position.

c. Reverse battery leads in Step 2 and Step 3 and window should now move. If window does not move, replace motor.



5.If window moved completely up or down, the test leads should be reversed one more time to complete a full window travel inspection.

6.If window does not move, check to make sure that it is free.

7.It is necessary that the window be free to slide up and down in the glass channels. If the window is not free to move up and down, the window lift motor will not be able to move the glass.

8.To determine if the glass is free, disconnect the regulator from the glass lift plate. Remove the two attaching screws, and slide the window up and down by hand.


08 - Electrical / 8N - Power Systems / Power Windows / Operation

OPERATION


EXPRESS UP/DOWN WINDOW FEATURE

Express operation is time-driven. If the window button is pressed for more than 50 milliseconds but less than 800 milliseconds, the window motor activates express operation. The smart motors will ignore any switch input lasting longer than 15 seconds. Vehicles may be equipped with either express down or express up and down.


OPERATION - POWER WINDOW MOTOR - STANDARD

A positive and negative battery connection to the two motor terminals will cause the power window motor to rotate in one direction. Reversing the current through these same two connections will cause the motor to rotate in the opposite direction.

Because the Drivers Door Module (DDM) drives the window, it can sense when the top and bottom travel has been reached and stop driving the window regardless of the window switch position (no hall pulses within 50 ms). The DDM considers the Hall Effect faulted if no pulses are sensed when the window is driven up and down. When this condition is detected, the DDM will activate the motor until the switch is released or a stuck fault is set (10 seconds). In addition, each power window motor is equipped with an integral self-resetting circuit breaker to protect the motor from overloads.

The driver side motor is controlled directly by the DDM. The passenger side motor receives current through a window up relay and a window down relay. The up and down window relays are controlled by the DDM.

There is also a fuse in the Power Distribution Center (PDC) to protect the passenger window circuits and a fuse in the PDC to protect the drivers window circuits.



POWER WINDOW MOTOR - SMART

Vehicles equipped with the One Touch Down (OTD) option use a "smart" window motor assembly. The smart window motors contain the electronics required to provide express up or down operation without the use of separate door modules.

The smart window motor will enter sleep mode after 20 seconds if ALL of the following conditions are true:

•No motor movement (stall condition previously detected)
• No switch input is active or the stuck switch condition has not been detected
• No stuck relay condition has been detected
• Window thermal protection is not in severe or activated mode

The smart window motor wakes up based on the following inputs:

•Any switch input becomes active
•Hardware reset
•Voltage is detected in any output from the relay to the motor terminals

The smart window motor does not communicate with the other modules on the vehicle. The rear windows on vehicles equipped with one-touch power front windows operate in the same manner used for the standard power window system. The one touch feature is not available for the rear windows.



08 - Electrical / 8N - Power Systems / Power Windows / Diagnosis and Testing

DIAGNOSIS AND TESTING - POWER WINDOWS

For complete circuit diagrams, refer to the appropriate wiring information.


ALL WINDOWS INOPERATIVE

1.Check the circuit breaker. If OK, go to Step 2. If not OK, replace the inoperative circuit breaker.

2.Disconnect and isolate the battery negative cable. Remove the window/lock switch from the driver side front door trim panel. Unplug the wire harness connector.

3.Check for continuity between the ground circuit cavity of the door module wire harness connector and a good ground. If OK, go to Step 4. If not OK, repair the circuit to ground as required.

4.Connect the battery negative cable. Turn the ignition switch to the On position. Check for battery voltage at the fused ignition switch output (run) circuit cavity of the window/lock switch wire harness connector. If OK, (Refer to 08 - Electrical/8N - Power Systems/Power Locks/SWITCH, Lock - Diagnosis and Testing) . If not OK, repair the circuit as required.



ONE WINDOW INOPERATIVE

The window glass must be free to slide up and down for the power window motor to function properly. If the glass is not free to move up and down, the motor will overload and trip the integral circuit breaker. To determine if the glass is free, disconnect the regulator from the glass. Then slide the window up and down by hand.

There is an alternate method to check if the glass is free. Position the glass between the up and down stops. Then, shake the glass in the door. Check that the glass can be moved slightly from side to side, front to rear, and up and down. Then check that the glass is not bound tight in the tracks. If the glass is free, proceed with the diagnosis that follows. If the glass is not free, determine the cause of the condition.

If the only inoperative window is in the driver or passenger side front door and the preceding checks have not identified a problem, (Refer to 08 - Electrical/8N - Power Systems/Power Windows/MOTOR, Window Regulator - Diagnosis and Testing) . If the problem being diagnosed involves only the Auto-down feature for the driver side front door window, but all of the power windows are operational, replace the driver's side window/lock switch. For diagnosis of the window/lock switch, (Refer to 08 - Electrical/8N - Power Systems/Power Locks/SWITCH, Lock - Diagnosis and Testing) . For a rear power window problem proceed with the following:

1.Disconnect and isolate the battery negative cable. Unplug the wire harness connector from the power window switch unit on the door with the inoperative power window. Check for continuity between the ground circuit cavity of the power window switch wire harness connector and a good ground. There should be continuity. If OK, go to Step 2. If not OK, repair the open circuit to the power window and door lock master switch as required.

2.Connect the battery negative cable. Turn the ignition switch to the On position. Check for battery voltage at the fused ignition switch output (run) circuit cavity in the body half of the power window switch unit wire harness connector. If OK, go to Step 3. If not OK, repair the open circuit to the power window and door lock master switch as required.

3.Test the power window switch continuity (Refer to 08 - Electrical/8N - Power Systems/Power Windows/SWITCH, Power Window - Diagnosis and Testing) . If OK, go to Step 4. If not OK, replace the power window switch.

4.Check the continuity in each circuit between the inoperative power window switch wire harness connector cavities and the corresponding power window motor wire harness connector cavities. If OK, (Refer to 08 - Electrical/8N - Power Systems/Power Windows/MOTOR, Window Regulator - Diagnosis and Testing) . If not OK, repair the open circuit(s) as required.


NOTE:
All passenger door power window switches receive their battery and ground feed for operating the passenger door power window motors through the driver side power window and lock master switch and wire harness connector.





08 - Electrical / 8N - Power Systems / Power Windows / SWITCH, Power Window / Diagnosis and Testing

FRONT DOOR - DRIVER SIDE

Any diagnosis of the power window system should begin with the use of the scan tool. For information on the use of the scan tool, refer to the appropriate Diagnostic Service Manual.

The diagnosis found here applies to the passenger power window switches. If the problem being diagnosed is an inoperative power window switch illumination lamp, but the power window switch operates as designed, replace the faulty door power window switch.

For complete circuit diagrams, refer to the appropriate wiring information.

1.Disconnect and isolate the battery negative cable.

2.Remove the power window switch from the door trim panel. (Refer to 08 - Electrical/8N - Power Systems/Power Windows/SWITCH, Power Window - Removal) .

3.Check the door power window switch continuity as shown in the power window switch test chart below.

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