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Still loving mine. As time has gone on, it feels even better :) Let me mention I was able to chirp into third. Slightly, but it was there. I was NEVER able to do that before. And I remember when I tried it resulted in a terrible grinding and horrid look of cringing on my face. :haha: I didn't know that was a common issue until I posted it on FB and like at least a dozen other people reported the same thing about trying to shift fast into third.
the 2nd to 3rd shift in the dart might be the worst of any manual transmission car on the road. if travis has solved 2nd to 3rd and allowed you to chirp without grinding, then he has done a great job.

btw, how is the 1st to 2nd shift? also greatly improved?
 

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the 2nd to 3rd shift in the dart might be the worst of any manual transmission car on the road. if travis has solved 2nd to 3rd and allowed you to chirp without grinding, then he has done a great job.

btw, how is the 1st to 2nd shift? also greatly improved?
That was probably my biggest issue with this car (1st to 2nd) and it's much better now! :D
 

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the 2nd to 3rd shift in the dart might be the worst of any manual transmission car on the road. if travis has solved 2nd to 3rd and allowed you to chirp without grinding, then he has done a great job.

btw, how is the 1st to 2nd shift? also greatly improved?
One - WTF is "chirping"?
Two - Can't say I've ever grinder shifting into any gear...
 
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One - WTF is "chirping"?
Two - Can't say I've ever grinder shifting into any gear...
that most beautiful sound you hear when you aggressively shift and slightly pop the tires off the ground as you zoom away, makes a "chirp" sound when tires come back down on the pavement. its the car equivalent of sneakers squeaking on a basketball court as the players are cutting hard and changing directions.

you must not be driving your dart like you stole it :wink:
 

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that most beautiful sound you hear when you aggressively shift and slightly pop the tires off the ground as you zoom away, makes a "chirp" sound when tires come back down on the pavement. its the car equivalent of sneakers squeaking on a basketball court as the players are cutting hard and changing directions.

you must not be driving your dart like you stole it :wink:
This^

And it has been a problem with third gear grinding. There has been at least 3 occasions where my clutch was FULLY pressed to the ground, and when I attempted to aggressively shift into 3rd, it would grind very quickly like I didn't have the clutch fully in. I always thought it was just me and I was shifting too quickly. Now my suspicion is that it was due to the clutch being delayed and actually not fully disengaged from the engine yet.
 

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There has been at least 3 occasions where my clutch was FULLY pressed to the ground, and when I attempted to aggressively shift into 3rd, it would grind very quickly like I didn't have the clutch fully in. I always thought it was just me and I was shifting too quickly. Now my suspicion is that it was due to the clutch being delayed and actually not fully disengaged from the engine yet.
I have got this a few times too and just assumed I was being bad at driving stick!
 
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I'll have to quick shift next time out to work and see if I can make it happen.....
 

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I am also looking for feedback as I am highly interested in purchasing this!
 

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I don't have the time this week but maybe next week I'll be able to install and post my impressions.
 
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how to removal of the the slave sylinder is on here between the dart bible, the clutch threads, and travis supplys instructions. Due to the location of the master its a bitch to get in there and photograph/video it. trust your instincts and use the force pretty much. your going to be doing a fair bit of it by feel.
 

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I'm looking to buy this soon, driving my dart is embarrassing sometimes with how the clutch is set up. I didn't know it was fixable. Lol. I am curious, why can't this line be replaced with an an clutch line like most other cars? Would it make the pedal too stiff?

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Review of the CDV Delete from Deyeme Racing

First of all, let me preface this with saying I am no car expert, but I have learned a lot the past 18 months with my Dart. The only thing I can offer is my personal experience, and I hope it helps somebody else out there. My inbox, as well on FB, has been blowing up with people asking about this, so here we go:

I did this installation during the afternoon, after installing the flex rear engine mount, which came in the same box from @DeyemeRacing. I guess I'm their poster-boy this week - lol. I had some prior issues, which is relevant to the topic, so I'll explain. I bought the Dart last Feb 14 - and the night I brought it home, my clutch sunk to the floor and stayed there. Looking back on the situation, it actually stuck a tiny bit a few times, but I didn't know enough to recognize it, as it was very subtle. The following week, the Kia dealership, where I purchased the vehicle, replaced the Master and Slave cylinder, as well as the clutch. They tried to blame my driving on the clutch going out - yeah - on the first day I owned it. Anyway, you don't mess with a Amish guys's kid - needless to say, a year later Chrysler reimbursed me for everything. Woot Woot!

As time went on, after the replacement, I had 2-3 issues over the next 8 months, where the clutch would stick momentarily, and then pop up. Couldn't get any video, but I took it back in one time, complaining of the same issue, they couldn't replace it and claimed to bleed the clutch. It did feel better, and I know they bled it b/c the green outlet nipple was missing (no cap.) As time went on, I would try to analyze the clutch, and I realize that many, if not all, of the "jerky" launches I had in first gear was due to the CDV sticking, ever so slightly, then releasing a moment later, causing a less than perfect launch. I have been driving stick for over 25 years, so I'm pretty confident in my ability to drive any stick, even bigger trucks. If I needed to move quickly, such as WOT, the clutch would stick momentarily. I also noticed (as others did) that on my WOT launches, I would grind third gear. It happened about 5-6 times since I've had the car, no more, but it was odd to me.

I also agree with others about the 1-2 shift point. Let me tell you what - this freakin sh!t fixed everything!! Buy it and get out of here! Go!

What are you still doing here? Ok fine:

Does this feel like a new clutch?
No.

Does this feel stiffer?
Yes, but that may have been accomplished by simply topping off the fluid levels. The clutch feels tight and consistent.

Did I have to re-learn the clutch?
No.

How long did the install take?
2 hours.

Did it change the way I drive?
No.

Does it make me happy?
OMG - Every single launch was perfect, even in slow, city traffic. I have not opened it up yet, I've only driven 10 or so miles in city traffic, but A LOT of clutch holding, launches, downshifting, etc. Shifting into second gear was perfect every time. I had no jerkiness, no sticking, no issues, and I couldn't be happier. I don't double clutch much in this car, but I do rev match to downshift, and there were no issues there, either - smooth as butter!

This fixes the inconsistencies of the CDV. I really think many Darts' CDV's stick a little bit, but so slight that you don't always notice, until it's gone. I didn't have to adjust anything, and driving it was as easy as driving any manual. Also, keep in mind, I never really had issues launching, but looking back, I can see where it was less than consistent. I would say, that if you haven't done a bunch of mods, this is NOT the easiest installation. The biggest difficulty was bleeding the system.

Two issues I had while doing this installation was removing the CDV without pulling the pushpin completely out. I dropped the pushpin, and it's very difficult to see in there, so be careful of losing it. The other issue was my air compressor wasn't powerful enough to use the brake bleeder tool. That fluid drained SOOOO slow. I ended up using a friend to help, so one could pump the clutch and the other monitored the fluid. The biggest thing, is DO NOT LET AIR INTO THE SYSTEM. Make sure fluid stays in your supply tank. I'm not sure if I read it wrong, but I bought 3 quarts of brake fluid, but only needed less than one. It was taking so long to bleed, I ended up topping it off and replacing only what I needed. I'm going to see how it does, as I haven't opened the other two bottles, but by looking at the tank, I don't think you could even fit more than a quart in there, but I could be wrong.

I will give more results on the power / racing side on my personal build thread here. I will surely beat my 7.16 second 0-60 now that my clutch responds properly.

If you are in Chicago, New Star Transmission will install it for you for $140 + parts, if you don't feel confident in your abilities. PM me for details, or google them - ask for David.
 

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Review of the CDV Delete from Deyeme Racing

First of all, let me preface this with saying I am no car expert, but I have learned a lot the past 18 months with my Dart. The only thing I can offer is my personal experience, and I hope it helps somebody else out there. My inbox, as well on FB, has been blowing up with people asking about this, so here we go:

I did this installation during the afternoon, after installing the flex rear engine mount, which came in the same box from @DeyemeRacing. I guess I'm their poster-boy this week - lol. I had some prior issues, which is relevant to the topic, so I'll explain. I bought the Dart last Feb 14 - and the night I brought it home, my clutch sunk to the floor and stayed there. Looking back on the situation, it actually stuck a tiny bit a few times, but I didn't know enough to recognize it, as it was very subtle. The following week, the Kia dealership, where I purchased the vehicle, replaced the Master and Slave cylinder, as well as the clutch. They tried to blame my driving on the clutch going out - yeah - on the first day I owned it. Anyway, you don't mess with a Amish guys's kid - needless to say, a year later Chrysler reimbursed me for everything. Woot Woot!

As time went on, after the replacement, I had 2-3 issues over the next 8 months, where the clutch would stick momentarily, and then pop up. Couldn't get any video, but I took it back in one time, complaining of the same issue, they couldn't replace it and claimed to bleed the clutch. It did feel better, and I know they bled it b/c the green outlet nipple was missing (no cap.) As time went on, I would try to analyze the clutch, and I realize that many, if not all, of the "jerky" launches I had in first gear was due to the CDV sticking, ever so slightly, then releasing a moment later, causing a less than perfect launch. I have been driving stick for over 25 years, so I'm pretty confident in my ability to drive any stick, even bigger trucks. If I needed to move quickly, such as WOT, the clutch would stick momentarily. I also noticed (as others did) that on my WOT launches, I would grind third gear. It happened about 5-6 times since I've had the car, no more, but it was odd to me.

I also agree with others about the 1-2 shift point. Let me tell you what - this freakin sh!t fixed everything!! Buy it and get out of here! Go!

What are you still doing here? Ok fine:

Does this feel like a new clutch?
No.

Does this feel stiffer?
Yes, but that may have been accomplished by simply topping off the fluid levels. The clutch feels tight and consistent.

Did I have to re-learn the clutch?
No.

How long did the install take?
2 hours.

Did it change the way I drive?
No.

Does it make me happy?
OMG - Every single launch was perfect, even in slow, city traffic. I have not opened it up yet, I've only driven 10 or so miles in city traffic, but A LOT of clutch holding, launches, downshifting, etc. Shifting into second gear was perfect every time. I had no jerkiness, no sticking, no issues, and I couldn't be happier. I don't double clutch much in this car, but I do rev match to downshift, and there were no issues there, either - smooth as butter!

This fixes the inconsistencies of the CDV. I really think many Darts' CDV's stick a little bit, but so slight that you don't always notice, until it's gone. I didn't have to adjust anything, and driving it was as easy as driving any manual. Also, keep in mind, I never really had issues launching, but looking back, I can see where it was less than consistent. I would say, that if you haven't done a bunch of mods, this is NOT the easiest installation. The biggest difficulty was bleeding the system.

Two issues I had while doing this installation was removing the CDV without pulling the pushpin completely out. I dropped the pushpin, and it's very difficult to see in there, so be careful of losing it. The other issue was my air compressor wasn't powerful enough to use the brake bleeder tool. That fluid drained SOOOO slow. I ended up using a friend to help, so one could pump the clutch and the other monitored the fluid. The biggest thing, is DO NOT LET AIR INTO THE SYSTEM. Make sure fluid stays in your supply tank. I'm not sure if I read it wrong, but I bought 3 quarts of brake fluid, but only needed less than one. It was taking so long to bleed, I ended up topping it off and replacing only what I needed. I'm going to see how it does, as I haven't opened the other two bottles, but by looking at the tank, I don't think you could even fit more than a quart in there, but I could be wrong.

I will give more results on the power / racing side on my personal build thread here. I will surely beat my 7.16 second 0-60 now that my clutch responds properly.

If you are in Chicago, New Star Transmission will install it for you for $140 + parts, if you don't feel confident in your abilities. PM me for details, or google them - ask for David.
DO me next!!!!
 

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Finally got my CDV delete kit done last night. I waited until the dealership replaced the Master and the hose. Pretty simple install. Luckily I had a vacuum pump bleeder. So simple to change out the fluid from up top, and will do so on a regular basis to keep the fluid fresh.

Will report back on how it feels after i drive it for a week or so, but so far, good. Pedal engages further from the floor, but feels solid.. Will give it a good workout tonight.

Ken
 
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