[Beltaine-77]

So I decided to rotate my tires over the weekend. I didn't have a proper 19mm lug impact socket, so I picked one up on Amazon.

EVERY. FREAKING. LUG. GOT. STUCK. IN. THE. SOCKET.

What should have been a 20 minute job took over an hour because I had to wrestle each and every lug nut out of the socket.

Are the lug bolts not 19mm? Is the socket I bought out of spec? Any tips on how to resolve this for the future because it was a miserable experience.

 

[jsblanch]

So I decided to rotate my tires over the weekend. I didn't have a proper 19mm lug impact socket, so I picked one up on Amazon.

EVERY. FREAKING. LUG. GOT. STUCK. IN. THE. SOCKET.

What should have been a 20 minute job took over an hour because I had to wrestle each and every lug nut out of the socket.

Are the lug bolts not 19mm? Is the socket I bought out of spec? Any tips on how to resolve this for the future because it was a miserable experience.

I have the same issue whether I use a 19mm socket or the equivalent 3/4" SAE socket. They fit pretty snug on the lugs, but yeah, they sometimes get very stuck in my 350 lbs-ft impact gun.

 

[suzq044]

Should be 19mm; maybe the socket isn't quite 19mm? They shouldn't get -that- stuck.

 

[alpinegreenneon]

6 point or 12 point sockets? Use 6 point sockets especially if you insist on an impact wrench instead of a torque wrench. Fwiw, I have never had such a problem. I don't own an impact wrench.

 

[jsblanch]

Should be 19mm; maybe the socket isn't quite 19mm? They shouldn't get -that- stuck.

As I recall, the acorn-style lug nuts on my 2014 Grand Caravan are also 19mm, and they come off without jamming, using the same gun and socket. I'd say it's the lug bolts on the Dart that are slightly off. It wouldn't take much with the amount of force that an impact gun applies.

 

[L84mudn]

I've run into this a time or two and various cars - and usually with clean lugnuts. Seams if I stop the impact just before the nut jumps off the stud and pull back on my electric impact, that the nut will stay on the stud, or just fall away from the socket onto the floor. And if it happens to stick anyways, I just hand thread the nut back on two threads, shake up and down and then pull the impact off of it.

 

[Beltaine-77]

It must be my socket then. It's a 6-sided socket, but every bolt I took out I would have to thread back in and rock the impact wrench side-to-side for 10-20 seconds to get it out of the socket. Then putting them back on I would have to do the same thing.

 

[CanadianGuitar]

The issue is the 19mm lugs are actually smaller than 19mm, the outside is a softer chrome and often ends up twisting and grinding the corners off.

 

[trip1027]

all my vehicles the lug nut I switched to a spline style....

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[jsblanch]

It must be my socket then. It's a 6-sided socket, but every bolt I took out I would have to thread back in and rock the impact wrench side-to-side for 10-20 seconds to get it out of the socket. Then putting them back on I would have to do the same thing.

Uh... don't use the impact gun to install the wheel lugs. Use a torque wrench.

 

[VicodinDream]

Agree with jsblanch. The issues is likely from the torque squeezing the socket metal to the bolt metal. Use the impact to drive the bolts to snug, not to tight. Then use the torque wrench to put them to tight.

 

[gigman8]

So I decided to rotate my tires over the weekend. I didn't have a proper 19mm lug impact socket, so I picked one up on Amazon.

EVERY. FREAKING. LUG. GOT. STUCK. IN. THE. SOCKET.

What should have been a 20 minute job took over an hour because I had to wrestle each and every lug nut out of the socket.

Are the lug bolts not 19mm? Is the socket I bought out of spec? Any tips on how to resolve this for the future because it was a miserable experience.

 

[gigman8]

I had a similar problem using a 19mm deep socket with a breaker bar and a pipe. The deep socket twisted the heads on 7 lug bolts. Then I bought a regular size 19 mm socket and was able to get lug bolts on and off with no problem. those chrome caps on the lug bolts are weak. I have replaced 19 lug bolts this year and do my own tire rotation because i'm afraid of anyone touching the lug bolts.

 

[gigman8]

I was using a 19 mm deep socket with a breaker bar and the six point deep socket was actually twisting the weak lug bolt heads under torque. I bought a regular 19mm six point socket and rotated the tires in twenty minutes only one lug bolt was hung up in the socket but i did not use air tools

 

[alpinegreenneon]

If you are twisting off the soft part, you are not putting the socket all the way on. Yes, the swollen soft part is preventing the socket from seating. That's when you get out the 20 mm socket. When you get the new lugs, put a layer of grease along the seam where the soft cover meets the hardened bolt.

 

[Mass_Paul]

When I had my new tires installed on Sunday, the tech came out and said that the 19mm socket, which is OEM spec, would not fit and if I would authorize him to use a 19.5mm. I already had to replace a few in the front (thanks to AlpineGreenNeon for making those available) so I told him to go ahead. While I was sitting waiting for the install to be completed, I purchased the 17mm improved spline lug bolts from MPX. They arrive on Thursday. Will let the community know my thoughts on them.

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[Jib]

So I decided to rotate my tires over the weekend. I didn't have a proper 19mm lug impact socket, so I picked one up on Amazon.

EVERY. FREAKING. LUG. GOT. STUCK. IN. THE. SOCKET.

What should have been a 20 minute job took over an hour because I had to wrestle each and every lug nut out of the socket.

Are the lug bolts not 19mm? Is the socket I bought out of spec? Any tips on how to resolve this for the future because it was a miserable experience.

They seem to swell i believe its a coating over the bolt head it rusts underneath and then they swell. If you buy new ones... Which is no fun at 8 bucks a piece you will see how much yours are swollen compared to new ones. That's my experience. Indeed it is frustrating putting more time then it should take.

 

[jsblanch]

They seem to swell i believe its a coating over the bolt head it rusts underneath and then they swell. If you buy new ones... Which is no fun at 8 bucks a piece you will see how much yours are swollen compared to new ones. That's my experience. Indeed it is frustrating putting more time then it should take.

Yes, Chrysler lug studs and lug nuts have a chrome cap over them and they're notorious for swelling. I used to have a 2004 Caravan than need 19, 20, and 21mm sockets to remove the "identical" lug nuts. I haven't had any issues with my Dart or my 2014 Grand Caravan in this regard, but I've found that some cheap 19mm sockets have a bit of play in them and they tend to jam themselves onto the head. I use a 19mm impact socket (I remove them with an electric impact gun, then start them by hand, run the impact gun until they're snug enough to hold the wheel flush on the hub, and use a torque wrench to finish them off on the ground). The socket fits perfectly on the lugs with no play.

 

[Mass_Paul]

Yes, Chrysler lug studs and lug nuts have a chrome cap over them and they're notorious for swelling. I used to have a 2004 Caravan than need 19, 20, and 21mm sockets to remove the "identical" lug nuts. I haven't had any issues with my Dart or my 2014 Grand Caravan in this regard, but I've found that some cheap 19mm sockets have a bit of play in them and they tend to jam themselves onto the head. I use a 19mm impact socket (I remove them with an electric impact gun, then start them by hand, run the impact gun until they're snug enough to hold the wheel flush on the hub, and use a torque wrench to finish them off on the ground). The socket fits perfectly on the lugs with no play.

I broke down and bought the aftermarket lug set MPx sells after having this issue. With the OEM, I found myself having to knock the lugs out of my socket using a hammer and drift punch. Finally some of the caps came off.

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[brian.miller1903]

So I decided to rotate my tires over the weekend. I didn't have a proper 19mm lug impact socket, so I picked one up on Amazon.

EVERY. FREAKING. LUG. GOT. STUCK. IN. THE. SOCKET.

What should have been a 20 minute job took over an hour because I had to wrestle each and every lug nut out of the socket.

Are the lug bolts not 19mm? Is the socket I bought out of spec? Any tips on how to resolve this for the future because it was a miserable experience.

I found out the stock lug bolts are in fact 19mm but have a chrome cap. Sometimes corrosion inside can cause them to "swell" and no longer fit the sockets. Once I learned this I went to Amazon and purchased some doorman steel lug bolts. All one piece so swelling shouldn't be an issue.