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Can't you just smell it?
The smell of fresh press ink on the thick newspapers with huge advertising sections asking us all to help the most important National cause of the centuries ? The Economy.
I wonder if all the artificial intelligence units will buy in to all the thinly veiled festivities of their Human creators.
"Sophia! It's time to trim the tree!"
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Get your wallets ready for capitalism!!! Buy Buy Buy! Who cares that you already have everything you could possibly need, buy more!

Remember folks, a television dying after 2 years is perfectly acceptable in the 21st century! Don't forget to buy the $150 store-offered warranty!

Lastly, don't forget to stock up on $40 underwear and $50 plain white t-shirts! You won't even be able to use them as rags when they are old, but we don't care you still have to buy them one way or another!
 

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or the 700 dollar phones that brick randomly 15 months into ownership.... mine died 2 weeks ago and the wifes did the same 2 days ago... same issue... i think stuff now a days is built with a dead code or something to tell them when to die....
 

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or the 700 dollar phones that brick randomly 15 months into ownership.... mine died 2 weeks ago and the wifes did the same 2 days ago... same issue... i think stuff now a days is built with a dead code or something to tell them when to die....
Phones, tv's, computers, tablets all have this feature built into it. It's incredibly hard to prove it, which is how they get away with it.
 

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Tah Dah! Christmas music on the one local FM station we play at work begins 24/7 this monday with a couple teasers over this weekend!!! The oldies, the goodies, Bing! Frank! Burle! The guy that wrote Rudolph ! Was it Gene? Aaaaaaaahhhhh...... I love alternate reality.
Next year I won't be at work anymore though. Unless I go part time at a place where they also play the one station. These are difficult life decisions! Oh well.... I shall enjoy the moment.
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and with the holidays comes...... (drumroll)..... Cold Flu sinus infection whatever you need pills for Season. Yippeee.
No sense of smell, no taste for food,confused thinking so you shouldn't even be on the road driving. Merry Christmas .
 

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and with the holidays comes...... (drumroll)..... Cold Flu sinus infection whatever you need pills for Season. Yippeee.
No sense of smell, no taste for food,confused thinking so you shouldn't even be on the road driving. Merry Christmas .
Ahh, you mean the government mandated "flu" virus they release every year?
 

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These things already want to destroy humans, they straight up say it. I'm still laughing my butt off because the programmer on stage is a real life version of "The Dude" from the movie The Big Lebowski. This guy is programming our future deaths.

 

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The thing that cracks me up is that the ultimate goal of both AI's and Humanity is efficiency . Which makes me terrified. Both of them and ourselves. The Universe of natural particles is not very efficient , which is what probably creates the patterns of uniqueness and what we call beauty. Add highly efficient electronic product to the mix on a Galactic level and you have a new type of "Hell" as would be described by an organic Human.
Good thing that the natural universe has a way of eliminating certain things before they go too far...........
 

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Phones, tv's, computers, tablets all have this feature built into it. It's incredibly hard to prove it, which is how they get away with it.
You know, it's funny. I don't think there's anything like that deliberately built into electronic devices. For one thing, it probably wouldn't be hard to prove at all, at least some of the time. Also, it just isn't necessary. It would actually be a big challenge to build modern cell phones that could reliably last more than 2 years. Electronics don't like heat, but we have these devices that are 5-8mm thick crammed full of electronic components, lithium batteries, and LED touch screens, all of which generate heat with no provision for cooling them at all. There's simply no room to keep things cool. Then we wrap them in insulating plastic and rubber cases to protect them from the more immediate risk of impact damage, and casually abuse them to death. Laptops are not much different. To make them ultra-thin, they've moved mostly to passive cooling. Unsurprisingly, overheating is one of the more common issues with modern laptops.

The thing is, the lack of durability and longevity in these devices isn't really seen as a major problem, because most people don't want to keep using them for 2+ years anyway. And let's not act like this is something new. Taking pride in being able to throw stuff away and replace it on a regular basis just because you can has been an important part of American culture since the post-WW2 period.
 

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You know, it's funny. I don't think there's anything like that deliberately built into electronic devices. For one thing, it probably wouldn't be hard to prove at all, at least some of the time. Also, it just isn't necessary. It would actually be a big challenge to build modern cell phones that could reliably last more than 2 years. Electronics don't like heat, but we have these devices that are 5-8mm thick crammed full of electronic components, lithium batteries, and LED touch screens, all of which generate heat with no provision for cooling them at all. There's simply no room to keep things cool. Then we wrap them in insulating plastic and rubber cases to protect them from the more immediate risk of impact damage, and casually abuse them to death. Laptops are not much different. To make them ultra-thin, they've moved mostly to passive cooling. Unsurprisingly, overheating is one of the more common issues with modern laptops.

The thing is, the lack of durability and longevity in these devices isn't really seen as a major problem, because most people don't want to keep using them for 2+ years anyway. And let's not act like this is something new. Taking pride in being able to throw stuff away and replace it on a regular basis just because you can has been an important part of American culture since the post-WW2 period.
I agree to a point. The point of agreement is that "things" are not so much "built in" as a mechanism of failure, but rather, the design / components are not made to last like a 60 year old post war 2 refrigerator - of which some are still in use. Ours is a culture of wanting to replace things with bright shiny new. It distracts from our own human inevitable decay within a scant average 80 years. Which is insane , given the regenerating process that nature put in place. But with all the AI being put in place, what are all the randomly reproducing humans supposed to do to "work" to make a wage in this artificial environment man has devised? Such a four letter word - work. But what ya gonna do..... we're all hooked. But imagine going back to the Golden era thousands of years ago when men lived up to a thousand years and toiled little. What a head trip that must have been!
 

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And let's not act like this is something new.
I would say it is very much something new, right around the time the USA got sold out to China in the 90's. Post WWII was the generation of hoarders, they didn't throw ANYTHING away. I think you are thinking of Americans and the physical landfill waste they produce from consumption, we are known for that! But as a whole, Americans expect a quality product that lasts and when it was made in the USA, we had the superior product. Now that it is made in China, it's pure garbage and we are forced to buy it over and over again.

My old TV lasted from 1986-2002. New TV = 3 years tops. Heat? Sure, I can agree with that but I also think they are using less insulating materials on the wiring/electronics. It lasts but it wont last 15+ years like the old tv's. If 1mm of insulate is in the spec sheet, how will anybody know if they use 0.5mm of insulate? As long as

My clothes dryer is from 1988, still working fine. I just replaced our clothes washer a year or so ago(Which was also from 1988). The difference between old and new washers? The water pump blade is made of plastic instead of metal, therefore it breaks much much sooner.
 

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Aaaaaahhhh.... now all we have to do is get through Mothers Day and Fathers Day and there's no more gift & card giving until December. Again .
Only the slightly nauseating smell of lighter fluid on charcoal wafting in the air.
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Guess not many folks here give a Rats Patooskie about Holidays. Of course, if you watch any news at all, there isn't much worth celebrating. I get that.
Happy upcoming Memorial Day anyway. MY late dad served in WW2 and my older brother in Vietnam . Neither one ever felt like much was accomplished as time went on though. Either way, they served. So that's good.
I was spared the discomfort of being faced with the Draft because of my age group. Funny thing is, I remember thinking to myself, in between going to Led Zeppelin concerts and pondering the Universe, that I thought it would be hard for the Govt to find enough voluntary men & women to fill the positions in the armed services. But I was wrong. AS a matter of fact, the only way a person can get Socialistic type benefits is by serving in the Military. Like free health care, free college, etc. Makes you wonder, does it not? I've always been a proponent of Free Stuff. Obviously, that's "not good for me" in the control freak world we now live in.
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Happy Memorial Day to those in my family, and to everyone, past and present, who has served and contributed to preserving our way of life.
 
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