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      Looking to buy a 2016 Dart, talk me out of it

      So reddit says Dart is the worst car ever which I'm sure plenty of you disagree with and that's why I'm here

      I'm currently in talks to buy a 2016 Dart SXT with 50k miles. Listed at $9000, made a $7000 cash offer, hoping to land around $7500-8000

      It's a 2.4l sxt...so do I go for it? or talk me out of it? Current vehicle is a 2007 cobalt LT 2.4 which has given me no real problems in the past 160k miles

      My main hang up is are there as many problems as they say?

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      SXT with that many miles? Nah, I would go for a limited or GT. You can snatch one in good condition around those same miles for around the same price. I would low ball them to 6k on an SXT TBH...

      I just met a very unhappy Dart owner last night. He has a 16' SE. He purchased it brand new for like 18.9.. Today it's worth about 8k.. That's sad.. But the GT holds a little more value.


      ***To let you know though***
      The Dart has a really crappy history but here is why: The 2013 Dart Aero. It had a LOT of problems out of the gate. Most are fixed now, but couple that with the ONGOING Manual trans master cylinder issues, you have a really worrisome time.

      The SXT auto or GT auto is the way to go. The downside I will give you up front is that the 2.4L engine had a small batch that leaked oil through one of the cylinder walls, but that is kinda rare TBH. If you want to play it absolutely safe, you would want the 2.0L with the auto trans, but just to let you know, it's going to be basic as basic gets. I would go with the GT myself. If you find a Rallye, then that's good too. If you do really want an SE, I wouldn't pay more than 6K for it no matter how few miles are on it. It just doensn't hold value. You can swap some things out for stuff in the upper models but in most cases you are going to end up having more of a pain trying to get all the parts for any upgrade which can be expensive, but then you also have to do what's called a 'proxi' any time you add things to your car. And at the end of the day if you don't want to add 6 to 8k more to the car, it's just not worth it and TBH.. It would just be cheaper at that point to get a higher model.
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      See if you can get the carfax. If repair history seems normal, it may be worth the risk. If you are not mechanically inclined, get a good warranty. I have two Darts with zero problems with 60k combined miles.
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      We had a 13 1.4T SXT with 67k before we had any trouble... then it was the DDCT, not the usual engine problems.

      We traded that on a 15 2.4 SXT an are approaching 38k on that, no problems.

      We’re now looking at getting a second Dart so I can take my 98 Ram off the road for a rebuild.
      Similarly we’re considering an 16 2.4 SXT or GT.

      So I don’t think I can help talk you out of it... unless you’re looking to buy the same car as I am 😉

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      I'd expect a fully loaded GT for that price.

      With that said I think it's a great car, not perfect but I've also gotten pretty lucky myself whereas it seems like especially with the 2.4 it's more like a crapshoot on the motor. You might have a POS that eats oil or you might not in which you won't know until you really drive it at which point you already own it.

      I'm on my second modern dart so clearly I'm a fan and I do all my own work as well as paint which in proud to say is actually fun. I've had many other vehicles and currently a BMW which I absolutely hate working on, but this car is fun to me not sure why but it is.

      One thing that I will say and I'm definitely not trying to talk you out of it in this is that my car is almost always an ice breaker when meeting clients. I work in IT and meet people mostly rich folks too at their homes on a regular basis I'd say 90% of the time the first question, compliment or comment involves my car which I'm always in my head like oh hell yeah!!!
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      Looking to buy a 2016 Dart, talk me out of it

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      Good call Josh...

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      If you like the car then look around for a decent. A used Dart you want to buy the paper work for the car essentially. Just make sure the vehicle history is a well documented one. Check on other dealer sites for comps on color, mileage and condition. I would use private party sites: autotrader, autolist, cargurus, etc...

      Good luck with your search!

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      Four months later with no follow-up reply from the OP tells me he probably found something else. For the sake of this thread I'll throw in what others have said, if you want a Dart avoid anything from 2013 and/or with the 1.4, be it DDCT or manual, as those are where 90% of the reported problems come from. Lots of 1.4 owners like theirs but it has been a problematic engine for many. 2014-2016 with a 2.0 or 2.4 and auto is a fairly safe bet, but again look for one of the upper trim levels as they hold their value slightly better. An SE or Aero Dart is worthless no matter what year, shape or mileage.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Parabolaralus View Post
      I'd expect a fully loaded GT for that price.

      With that said I think it's a great car, not perfect but I've also gotten pretty lucky myself whereas it seems like especially with the 2.4 it's more like a crapshoot on the motor. You might have a POS that eats oil or you might not in which you won't know until you really drive it at which point you already own it.

      I'm on my second modern dart so clearly I'm a fan and I do all my own work as well as paint which in proud to say is actually fun. I've had many other vehicles and currently a BMW which I absolutely hate working on, but this car is fun to me not sure why but it is.

      One thing that I will say and I'm definitely not trying to talk you out of it in this is that my car is almost always an ice breaker when meeting clients. I work in IT and meet people mostly rich folks too at their homes on a regular basis I'd say 90% of the time the first question, compliment or comment involves my car which I'm always in my head like oh hell yeah!!!
      LOL on the BMW! I'm currently dumping a 2004 325xi for parts, as I'm sick of pouring labor and money into it!
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