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    This is a discussion on Handling within the Dodge Dart General Discussion forums, part of the Dodge Dart Forum - Dodge Dart Discussion category; The Dart is about 800 lbs heavier than your Celica. Keep that in mind. What tires do you currently have on the car? That being ...

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      The Dart is about 800 lbs heavier than your Celica. Keep that in mind. What tires do you currently have on the car?

      That being said, the Dart GT has very little body roll. I find myself wanting an aftermarket seat, as the stock seat doesn't provide much side to side support.

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      I agree on the seat. In a tight corner, I feel like I'm going to slide out of it.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Killraven View Post
      The Dart is about 800 lbs heavier than your Celica. Keep that in mind. What tires do you currently have on the car?

      That being said, the Dart GT has very little body roll. I find myself wanting an aftermarket seat, as the stock seat doesn't provide much side to side support.
      Yeah, my 2013 Rallye has minimal body roll, and is quite stiffly sprung. With good tires, it's pretty decent, but it's heavy and will never be a supreme handler.

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      Curb weight 2,650 lb for 2000 Celica
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      Quote Originally Posted by jsblanch View Post
      Yeah, my 2013 Rallye has minimal body roll, and is quite stiffly sprung. With good tires, it's pretty decent, but it's heavy and will never be a supreme handler.
      My 2014 Rallye goes into corners great. It's just the acceleration going out of the corner that's left wanting.

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      I have an M13 edition sits about a 1/4 inch lower than my wifes Rallye sxt. Her car rides smoother, but mine handles much better, but a stiffer ride. M13's also came with recalibrated steering to handle better.

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      Try my in my 2.0L Ply Laser Turbo ... No comparison. The Laser is lighter, tighter and narrower. The Dodge is like a slug of pig iron being more wider, almost a thousand pounds heavier and a four door sedan ....why I'm glad I have the 2.4 in the Dodge. That Fiat Abarth 1.4 Turbo seems so under powered for a tub like the Dart. Dart should have turboed the 2.0L

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      Quote Originally Posted by 1GDART14 View Post
      Try my in my 2.0L Ply Laser Turbo ... No comparison. The Laser is lighter, tighter and narrower. The Dodge is like a slug of pig iron being more wider, almost a thousand pounds heavier and a four door sedan ....why I'm glad I have the 2.4 in the Dodge. That Fiat Abarth 1.4 Turbo seems so under powered for a tub like the Dart. Dart should have turboed the 2.0L
      They couldn't just slap teh turbo onto the 2.0. Yes it was very similar to the 2.4 that was in the caliper but was still different enough to not help at all. The srt dart was gonna get the 2.0t that is out now for a few cars but was way behind schedule

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      Quote Originally Posted by 1GDART14 View Post
      Try my in my 2.0L Ply Laser Turbo ... No comparison. The Laser is lighter, tighter and narrower. The Dodge is like a slug of pig iron being more wider, almost a thousand pounds heavier and a four door sedan ....why I'm glad I have the 2.4 in the Dodge. That Fiat Abarth 1.4 Turbo seems so under powered for a tub like the Dart. Dart should have turboed the 2.0L
      The actual performance of the 1.4T is pretty much the same as the 2.4L. 160hp and 184lb-ft of torque is hardly "underpowered" for a compact sedan of the Dart's era. There was no 2.0T engine available for the Dart, and the Tigershark engines were evidently not designed with turbocharging in mind, since there has never been a factory-turbo version of them. SRT said in 2014 that they had stopped any development into the Dart because FCA at the time had no suitable engines available for them to even consider. There is a 2.0T engine now, but it didn't exist until 2 or 3 years ago, and was only used by Alfa Romeo until the 2019 model year.

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      Refreshing banter. Kind of like the old days. But, comical from a post-FCA era of market seriousness . The Big Brother with Big Eyeballs is always looking at power to weight ratio anyway in this modern setting.
      Factory backed and engineered after purchase modification was the only real answer back in the day. Now, (post 2009 or so) tuning is a crap shoot that will likely just ruin your day. So, even if a modern day smaller car (or a Dart like car) would be offered with more than about 240 HP from the factory, Big Eyeballs says they have to put Active Fuel Management or some other method of cruelty like Start/Stop of engine on the sorry little lump of metal. Or maybe a manual trans with skip-shift ! Gimme summa datt !
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