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      Some of you may recall that I was trying to install door locks on the passenger side doors of my Darts. FCA has part numbers for a right side door lock and a right side lock rod.
      68170232AA / Lock Rod, RIGHT
      68237148AA / Lock Cylinder, RIGHT
      I already have those parts and I have keyed those locks to be the same as the driver side lock. The problem is that the door latch is missing a lever to attach the rod to. I found a wrecked Dart at a junkyard and disassembled the doors. I was hoping to transfer the lever but it is riveted and no way to swap it to the right side. I destroyed the left latch assembly trying. Here is a pic of a left and right door latch:
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      I recall reading a thread about a member that just had a key and no fob. Very likely an early base model that might have been equipped with a passenger side door lock. A VIN from that member or anyone else that has such a Dart would really help.
      I found that thread:
      https://www.dodge-dart.org/forum/dod...t-key-fob.html
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      Are you trying to add a key slot to the door on the passenger side?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bullfrog View Post
      Are you trying to add a key slot to the door on the passenger side?
      Yes. I am so accustomed to opening a car door with a key for over 50 years that it bothers me not to have a lock on that side. I don't like remotes.

      Our 2018 Ram 1500 regular cab has manual windows and doors, no remote and it has a right side door lock. Perhaps there was a fleet version of the Dart with no fob?
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      Looking in the parts tab of my part of DealerConnect, i see three numbers for the door latch, two rights and a left; 68175231AA is a left side, 68175250AA is a right side, both of these have no model designation. Then there is 68175234AA, a right side that has GXM right next to it. I'm thinking that this one might be a keyed latch for the right hand drive countries, likely Fiat would have the same setup, but flipped. I'm going to ask my parts lady in the morning, see if they have anything else besides what i see.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MichNeon View Post
      Looking in the parts tab of my part of DealerConnect, i see three numbers for the door latch, two rights and a left; 68175231AA is a left side, 68175250AA is a right side, both of these have no model designation. Then there is 68175234AA, a right side that has GXM right next to it. I'm thinking that this one might be a keyed latch for the right hand drive countries, likely Fiat would have the same setup, but flipped. I'm going to ask my parts lady in the morning, see if they have anything else besides what i see.
      The difference is that 68175250AA is for cars without passive entry and 68175234AA is for those with passive entry.

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      68175234AA is what is there now and what I pulled at the junkyard, and it does not have a lever. I asked Benny @AllMoparParts.com to order a 68175250AA to see if it has a lever and he says it does not have it either. David, if your parts lady wants to try to order that number 68175250AA to verify, I would buy it from you if it actually does have the lever. It seems odd that FCA would have two right side numbers for the latch, a right side key cylinder and right side lock rod, and that neither right side latch part number that doesn't have a lever for the lock rod. I do see the part inside the latch I have that the lever toggles.
      I have emailed FCA to see if there was a RHD Fiat Viaggio made and if it might have the correct latch with a lever since it shares a lot of parts with the Dart. Waiting for an answer.
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      Quote Originally Posted by alpinegreenneon View Post
      Yes. I am so accustomed to opening a car door with a key for over 50 years that it bothers me not to have a lock on that side. I don't like remotes.
      The things we miss...round keys for locks and square keys for ignition. All metal ignition cylinder. Im not a fan of the fob either. It looks like the next car i get no matter what i dont think i will have separate radio and AC controls it will be some bastardized touchscreen. :/

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      Quote Originally Posted by jsblanch View Post
      The difference is that 68175250AA is for cars without passive entry and 68175234AA is for those with passive entry.
      I don't have passive entry and the junkyard donor did not have passive entry. The online parts software sometimes has errors. That's why they always insist on your VIN when you do an online order.
      What's strange is that the left side latch has only one part number.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Bullfrog View Post
      The things we miss...round keys for locks and square keys for ignition. All metal ignition cylinder. Im not a fan of the fob either. It looks like the next car i get no matter what i dont think i will have separate radio and AC controls it will be some bastardized touchscreen. :/
      The fob puts a bulge in your pocket and its heavier than a metal key. The ignition node has no lock tumblers, it's all electronic. The door lock has 7 tumblers but the metal key in the fob has 8 cuts. Our Darts have the base radio, no touchscreens. Our 2018 Ram does not have a touchscreen thankfully. The backup camera image appears on the rearview mirror.
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      Talked to my parts lady today, she said that GXM is the latch for cars with remote entry and panic alarm. She did not find anything more than what i was looking at. Apparently, the U.S. catalog does not have anything for the exports besides North America. If Fiat had exported the platform to rhd countries, then if there's anyone on this forum that lives in one of those countries, they could check into it. Sorry that i was'nt of much help this time.

     

     
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