Shelby Focus ST Announced

[BluStreakDart]

No the Focus ST doesn't have the Revoknuckle system but a lower end version that quells most torque steer but cannot quell it all especially at the limits or under WOT, etc. Refer to links below

2013 Ford Focus ST First Test - Motor Trend

2013 Ford Focus ST First Drive

I'm reviewing from the drivers seat of one with a tune intake and exhaust. Not from others reviews. No tq steer in it thus far. Fast as hell though lol

PS- IF your one for reviews you wouldnt like the Dart because most reviews are eh at best. I however love mine.

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I'm reviewing from the drivers seat of one with a tune intake and exhaust. Not from others reviews. No tq steer in it thus far. Fast as hell though lol

PS- IF your one for reviews you wouldnt like the Dart because most reviews are eh at best. I however love mine.

Ok, that's good to know. I use the reviews as a baseline usually and reserve judgement for when I can see or drive the car myself. However, I know that I will probably never get a Focus ST because it looks kinda big to me and I'm not a big fan of the gaping maw on it.

BTW, we already have a Dart. I didn't base everything on the reviews I read or watched but I did use them in my decision (along with the wife's input of course...LOL). Most reviewers don't seem to look at the right thing for me in cars anyway and when they do, they are oftentimes comparing it to cars not in the same class so I take them with a grain of salt.

[nydartsrt]

Hahaha....I don't get it. Yes, it's still a Ford, and you still drive a Dodge, and I drive a Nissan, and so on and so forth.

I don't see anything wrong with the ST. It's not your basic Toyota or Honda like appliance so why the hate?

The point is...its a Ford so its an overpriced POS! MOPAR or no car!

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The point is...its a Ford so its an overpriced POS! MOPAR or no car!

That doesn't mean anything. It's still biased, ignorant, and totally irrelevant to the car or how it performs.

Folks could say you technically have an Alfa which if tradition is to be believed makes it an automatic POS itself. Heck, if I subscribed to that line of thought, I wouldn't have bought a Dart and wouldn't be considering picking up a DSRT eventually.

[nydartsrt]

That doesn't mean anything. It's still biased, ignorant, and totally irrelevant to the car or how it performs.

Folks could say you technically have an Alfa which if tradition is to be believed makes it an automatic POS itself. Heck, if I subscribed to that line of thought, I wouldn't have bought a Dart and wouldn't be considering picking up a DSRT eventually.

Sure it does...you just refuse to acknowledge it. There's nothing Alfa about the Dart except the platform. At least its not based off a Ford...LOL

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Sure it does...you just refuse to acknowledge it. There's nothing Alfa about the Dart except the platform. At least its not based off a Ford...LOL

Eh! Wot?

Forget it. There's no arguing with the clear brilliance of your post nor hiding from your astute observations stemming obviously from your previous ownership of multiple Ford vehicles.

I know it's bad to say but I kinda feel sorry for you and can't help myself. /no offense meant

[nydartsrt]

I would never own a Ford...Why would I?

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I would never own a Ford...Why would I?

That's fine. You don't have to own a Ford at all but to blindly state that all Fords are a POS (with no "reason") makes no sense to me. To further complicate matters, when I used your method to explain what was wrong with it (by using the Dart/Alfa analogy), you tried to explain that particular analogy using "reason".

Why not be reasonable about the Ford as well? The Ford ST if it does well can only help the Dart. Chrysler will seek to better the Dart and improve sales. The Dart might not have existed if the Focus was not brought back in it's current form.

[nydartsrt]

But the Dart is already better than the Fukus...so there's no need to. Fords are known for their issues, have crap reliability, and just look like utter crap.

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But the Dart is already better than the Fukus...so there's no need to. Fords are known for their issues, have crap reliability, and just look like utter crap.

Forget it!