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    This is a discussion on Brisk Silver Racing spark plugs for the 1.4T within the Eurocompulsion forums, part of the Dodge Dart Forum - Supporting Vendors category; Originally Posted by Buddersnaps so you dont use them? cuz my car will be operating in temps wayyyyy lower then 40 degress F. ahah?? I ...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Buddersnaps View Post
      so you dont use them? cuz my car will be operating in temps wayyyyy lower then 40 degress F. ahah??
      I use them in the summer ONLY when its above 80 degrees constantly... Here is some readings ive found that may help clear up questions...

      https://www.ngksparkplugs.com/about-...rk-plug-basics
      Heat Range Explanation - Technical Information - NGK Spark Plugs Australia

      Both these articles tell you that the ONLY time that you should use a colder spark plug is on a high performance engine (i dont think the 1.4t dart qualifies there).

      Also it says in the 2nd article (heat range explanation) that when running a plug with a heat rating that is too high (colder plug) that the temp of the plug stays too low and build up will occur on the tip and cause electrical leakage and loss of spark (which IMO feels exactly like what happens when i run these plugs in temps lower than 70 degrees).
      @Greg@EC you said it yourself right there, when its colder outside you are further away from knock and dont need the extra insurance for a colder plug, and i am not saying the plug cares. Im saying the due to the ambient temps being WAY below what is normal for optimal performance, Say around 15 degrees outside, the engine is going to dissipate heat alot quicker and the engine engine will not stay as hot as say a 80 degree day. Thats just common sense, but hear me out, so if the engine bay is staying cooler and the intake and intercooler are staying cooler, then the air flowing through would DEFINITELY be cooler. Cooler air going through the engine will keep the engine cooler as well and it WILL NOT be running anywhere near as hot as what it would during a 80 degree summer day. Again, I am NOT saying these plugs dont work... I am saying they dont work correctly during winter months up in the northern US and Canada. Do I recommend these plugs for summer performance use? HELL YEAH! THEY ARE AWESOME! They help prevent knock, they prevent the higher boost pressures from a tune blowing out the spark, and it seems to me they help the car idle a little better in the heat(IMO) but during then winter when its cold and not ideal for performance driving, i feel its best to take em out and save em for the summer again!
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      this is the good stuff i expect to see on the ORG

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      I have had no issues with these plugs. It's below 70 this morning and these plugs will perform just as well for me as they always do. I think it bears repeating that if a plug doesn't work for you, try a different plug.
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      Love of god. The operating temp of the engine is 180-210f the coolant is going to be THAT hot because its getting continuously heat soaked 'cause fire and explosions.'

      In cold weather it will take longer to warm up to operating temp. Thats common sense.

      In cold weather an engine will cool down faster when it is shut off. That is common sense.

      An engine that is running down the highway at operating temp really doesnt gaf if its -35f. Cause the block and everything in it is around 180f or hotter including the plugs. Will it take longer to get heat soaked, yes. Will it cool off faster once youre parked, yes.

      A high performance engine can also mean a tuned or modified turbo engine. So a 1.4l that is tuned can be considered high performance. If you run a 'hot tune' or are heavily modified you should run colder plugs to stave off possible detonation or knock.

      As for cold air not beong optimal for performance, theres a reason people post a lot of PB's in the fall at the 1/4 mile. Quicker cool down between passes (while car is resting) and more favorable air density. More air = more fuel = MOAR POWAH
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      So you say use them in winter cuz it doesnt matter on engine temp just let it waem up to optimal temps?

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      @Buddersnaps If your mods require or recommend colder plugs yes. Otherwise stockers are fine.

      (DISCLAIMER: That doesnt mean that a better conductor wont offer a driveability upgrade. Im just sayin colder plugs for vehicles with mods that can take advantage of em should use em and they shouldnt see any difference with temp swings)
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      Quote Originally Posted by VaderGT View Post
      Love of god. The operating temp of the engine is 180-210f the coolant is going to be THAT hot because its getting continuously heat soaked 'cause fire and explosions.'

      In cold weather it will take longer to warm up to operating temp. Thats common sense.

      In cold weather an engine will cool down faster when it is shut off. That is common sense.

      An engine that is running down the highway at operating temp really doesnt gaf if its -35f. Cause the block and everything in it is around 180f or hotter including the plugs. Will it take longer to get heat soaked, yes. Will it cool off faster once youre parked, yes.

      A high performance engine can also mean a tuned or modified turbo engine. So a 1.4l that is tuned can be considered high performance. If you run a 'hot tune' or are heavily modified you should run colder plugs to stave off possible detonation or knock.

      As for cold air not beong optimal for performance, theres a reason people post a lot of PB's in the fall at the 1/4 mile. Quicker cool down between passes (while car is resting) and more favorable air density. More air = more fuel = MOAR POWAH
      Yes, this is true... but i have not been the only person who has had issues with these plugs when it is colder outside. This is why i said that in order to constantly use these plugs you NEED the HPSI tune... I have a custom tune and when i use these outside of the summer they dont work correctly. Ive tried them at .020", .022" and .023" the only one that will run correctly is the .023". I wouldnt be putting this out there if i wasnt having issues, that would be stupid. All i want to do i make it completely clear that he may have issues and if he does that I have found those plugs being the cause. I came to that conclusion by testing my theory... Im not just saying o these plugs dont work cause i said so... There is evidence that is backing up my claims and there is proof... if i have to make a video for proof i will but it may not be much cause its something you FEEL when driving not something you can really hear. Ive had the plugs for about 1 year now and the only way to get them to work is re-gapping and using them in the summer only @yodamusic you live here in IL and had the same issue...
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      So i have the hpsi tune so ill be 100 % good ? No one with hpsi tune experienced any issues?

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      The EC/HPSI tune has nothing to do with how the spark plugs behave when coasting off throttle at low rpm.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Buddersnaps View Post
      So i have the hpsi tune so ill be 100 % good ? No one with hpsi tune experienced any issues?
      Buy them if you want... they will not gain you anything... if you start to have issues when winter comes youll know why.
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