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    This is a discussion on Phase 2 tune direction within the Eurocompulsion forums, part of the Dodge Dart Forum - Supporting Vendors category; Originally Posted by Greg@EC We are working on it. Now that we have finished Phase 3 on the Abarth we have more time for the ...

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      Quote Originally Posted by Greg@EC View Post
      We are working on it. Now that we have finished Phase 3 on the Abarth we have more time for the other projects.

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      should dart owners be expecting future phases after Phase 2? if so how many? Also about the REV limiter would the DDCT tranny expect a possible increase in the future?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Buddersnaps View Post
      should dart owners be expecting future phases after Phase 2? if so how many? Also about the REV limiter would the DDCT tranny expect a possible increase in the future?
      At this time I am not planning on it. I don't think there is a market for a 300hp 7000rpm conversion on the Dart. There are just too many things that have to go along with that tune. I am not sure all of the needed products even exist for the Dart, like a 3.0" downpipe and bigger intercooler.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Greg@EC View Post
      We are working on it. Now that we have finished Phase 3 on the Abarth we have more time for the other projects.

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      Awesome! Sounds pretty sick! How does the phase 3 look for that abarth?!?!

      Also, there are people that are running larger intercoolers but I guess it really depends on what you mean by "larger"! Also, Im pretty sure that ATP makes a downpipe for the dart now and it has an option for full 3".
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      Shouldn't we be close to 300hp with the turbo upgrade, camshaft upgrade, and all the other complementary bolt-ons to go along with it(intercooler, injectors, etc.)? I am still planning on getting the turbo upgrade but will probably be waiting until next summer.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Steezus View Post
      Shouldn't we be close to 300hp with the turbo upgrade, camshaft upgrade, and all the other complementary bolt-ons to go along with it(intercooler, injectors, etc.)? I am still planning on getting the turbo upgrade but will probably be waiting until next summer.
      Unfortunately not... I know, its sad... But with the way that our ECU is and how the multiair system governs the valves there is really not much more we can do with these engines... Now you would be 100% correct, if there was a way to remove multiair and put a regular cam system in place. Then we could easily have 300+ HP out of these cars AND there would be more options for modification!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Exitus04 View Post
      Unfortunately not... I know, its sad... But with the way that our ECU is and how the multiair system governs the valves there is really not much more we can do with these engines... Now you would be 100% correct, if there was a way to remove multiair and put a regular cam system in place. Then we could easily have 300+ HP out of these cars AND there would be more options for modification!
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      I dont understand what you are showing here... That is phase 3 for the 500L and abarth, Greg has already made it clear that they are NOT going to release that for the dart.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Exitus04 View Post
      I dont understand what you are showing here... That is phase 3 for the 500L and abarth, Greg has already made it clear that they are NOT going to release that for the dart.
      I believe he is trying to show that 300hp is still achievable. According to the info for eurocompulsion's phase 3 tune, we could meet all of the requirements with parts. I'm sure there will still be a big turbo tune for us which would basically be phase 3. Chris told me they have both the upgraded cam and turbo in their test dart. I'm curious to see what numbers they produced.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Steezus View Post
      I believe he is trying to show that 300hp is still achievable. According to the info for eurocompulsion's phase 3 tune, we could meet all of the requirements with parts. I'm sure there will still be a big turbo tune for us which would basically be phase 3. Chris told me they have both the upgraded cam and turbo in their test dart. I'm curious to see what numbers they produced.
      I understand that, but they still have not hit 300HP... 285WHP could be considered 300HP at the crank but then after all that youll still need a new clutch and they even show needing a meth system... also, their requirements are for things that arent available for our darts... The El gato exhaust isnt made for the dart... and for the amount of money that would need to be paid in order to make that power is ENORMOUS!!!

      *EDIT* just ran the numbers and for everything that they recommend for this tune, youll need to spend almost $9000 to make it run correctly, those are just Abarth parts tho... not dart parts, but I would assume it would be quite close.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Exitus04 View Post
      I understand that, but they still have not hit 300HP... 285WHP could be considered 300HP at the crank but then after all that youll still need a new clutch and they even show needing a meth system... also, their requirements are for things that arent available for our darts... The El gato exhaust isnt made for the dart... and for the amount of money that would need to be paid in order to make that power is ENORMOUS!!!

      *EDIT* just ran the numbers and for everything that they recommend for this tune, youll need to spend almost $9000 to make it run correctly, those are just Abarth parts tho... not dart parts, but I would assume it would be quite close.
      Yeah these parts are quite expensive. I added everything for the injectors, camshaft+tools, turbo, and water meth kit and that alone is $4000. I have been debating whether it is worth it or not. I noticed damnfastdd.com has a cheaper "super stock turbo" that apparently is good for 250-260whp. I know they don't have the best rep but if that is true then we can still make decent power for a cheaper price. If eurocompulsion comes out with good dyno numbers from their dart with the turbo and cam upgrade then I may go with the 1752 turbo then.
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