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    My DDCT is a little show to shift too, and sometimes if I give it some gas it hesitates and feels like it up shifts then downshits. Manual shifting with it is delayed also. I have the same experience as the people in that press release have, but it sure is smooth for the most part. I would have went with a manual if limited in canada could have manual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pitajr View Post
    My DDCT is a little show to shift too, and sometimes if I give it some gas it hesitates and feels like it up shifts then downshits. Manual shifting with it is delayed also. I have the same experience as the people in that press release have, but it sure is smooth for the most part. I would have went with a manual if limited in canada could have manual.
    Check into the recall just realeased last week. Helped mine with the shifting. #13-002.

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    Yeah, a lot of these "turbo lag" and throttle-by-wire hesitation issues with the 1.4t and shifting issues with the DDCT will be remedied with software updates IMO. Everything is controlled computers these days. The hardware only does what the software is telling it to do. It's not a hardware issue, it's a software issue.

    Wow... I've just sprinted past my daily allotment of the use of the words software and hardware... haha
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    "It's a sporty, large compact sedan (or small midsized sedan) not a sports car "

    How right you are Jacone! I actually saw one writer call the 2013 dart a "subcompact" Oh, COME on!

    Just because I was curious I did a spreadsheet study using the specs from the Edmonds web site. I compared four 2013 cars: Hyundai Elantra, Toyota Corolla, Dodge Dart, Toyota Camry and Hyundai Sonata. The Dart is really closer to the mid size cars, although there are a few places it's a bit "tight". The Dart trunk space is in the compact size area and the headroom is the lowest. They wanted to make the Dart to have good legroom, so something had to give. 13.1 cubic feet puts it in the Corolla size. Now, about that headroom, I saw a video where the over 6' tall tester was driving a Dart with the Moon Roof and his head was sticking up into the opening! So, if you are a big and tall guy or gal, you might want to skip the Moon Roof option because it reduces head room by 2-3 inches. I know when I drove the Limited, I was very impressed with the seating comfort, I'm 5'10" and just a tad over 200 pounds. It had the moon roof and I felt the clearence was fine. I also was very impressed with the quietness of the car, at least as good as my wife's 2003 Camry. It sure as hell ain't no subcompact!
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    Bought this car to save gas and for the luxury do not need to drive it hard. DDCT shifts adequately for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SrtJunky View Post
    Yeah, a lot of these "turbo lag" and throttle-by-wire hesitation issues with the 1.4t and shifting issues with the DDCT will be remedied with software updates IMO. Everything is controlled computers these days. The hardware only does what the software is telling it to do. It's not a hardware issue, it's a software issue.

    Wow... I've just sprinted past my daily allotment of the use of the words software and hardware... haha
    Do you know when there will be software updates? or where I can go to find out?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacone View Post
    Do you know when there will be software updates? or where I can go to find out?
    One was just released last week, 13-002 or 003.. makes a big difference in shifting.
    See link below to thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemast View Post
    One was just released last week, 13-002 or 003.. makes a big difference in shifting.
    See link below to thread.

    [Technical Service Bulletin] Upcoming TSB's

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    No Problem. I actually just called my dealer as i had 13-002 put on and someone referenced 13-003 and i wanted to know the difference. And he told me that 13-004 was just released TODAY !!! That is specific to the transmission.. he did not give me the details of 13-004 but said next time I am in for a oil change they will put it on. Or if I just wanted it to bring it by.


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    002-13 is for a 2.0
    003-13 and 004-13 are both for 1.4l with the manual sales code DE1 not DA1 that is the DDC

    I see no flashes for a DDC trans at this time just one for the trunk and the slow fuel gauge.

 

 
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