This is a discussion on tuning for 2.0? within the Dodge Dart 2.0L Tigershark Engine Mods forums, part of the Dodge Dart 2.0L Tigershark category; Originally Posted by SilverMidas @ wantsum? , I agree with you. The only 'learning' ECU I know of is the high end and expensive systems ...
roadrace would lie about a self-adjusting ECU.... so i wouldnt NOT TRUST them because it doesnt have a $3k pricerag on it... people will obviously be able to tell right away if it actually self adjusts, so lying about something like this wouldnt make any sense. trust me: they are not bullshitting anyone! the Mitsubishi EVO community raves about RRM, i think thats enough to ensure that they make good quality parts that yield benefits. to each his own opinion though! if the Tork tune is more your style, then wait it out!
Last edited by EMount91; 10-22-2013 at 08:01 AM.
But yeah, Tork is literally 30-45 minutes from me, door to door, so it's not bad at all. And I'm not sure how a dealer would know I was tuned, especially if there is no stickers, or other indicators. Hell, the technicians probably wouldn't even realize it if you have a turbo on a 2.0.
Thought I would add in some information to help everyone understand what we are planning with our ECU's. First off we will have 2.0L ECM out soon called the Spectrum ECM, it will be changing timing and fuel and we already have one out in the wild getting real world miles on it. We don't just dyno and sell, we like to find out from a couple customers how driving feels with our product. We don't know if we will be able to create stages for the 2.0L, it took a lot of work to get it working the correct way and we don't know if we can push it farther than we have.
We are going to have stages on our 1.4L turbo ECM systems. Already our base system is out and we are starting real world testing of the Ultimate ECM. The big deal with the Ultimate is that it will push more power, have a plug and play module for Meth injection and work with Automatic transmission just like our base system.
As for ECU learning, this is something we have been dealing with since ODBII and has gotten even more difficult as companies have moved to CANBUS systems. The car is always trying to adjust to fuel, timing, air so that it gets as close to optimal running parameters as possible. The computer has a AFR in mind and it is always adjusting the car to meet it so that it can keep with emissions and MPG regulations, and now that more cars like the Dart 1.4L are using a wideband system it is becoming harder to tune vehicles in the traditional way. What has happened though is now we can create ECM devices that will do the work of a traditional tune for you and add the benefit of keeping your warranty intact. Many times with warranty work the Dealer will scan your ECU for information and if it is modified the computer will return an code to the tech. This could require you to pay for work rather than get it covered if the dealer finds the modified ECU is at fault. Our box avoids all those issues by being a plug and play unit that does not leave a trace, all you have to do is take the first 80 miles easy while the ECU adjusts to the new settings. A lot of our knowledge and experience is backup by years of working with OEMs like Mitsubishi and Suzuki to build amazing concept cars for both companies.