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    This is a discussion on 1.4L Turbo Sputter/Stumbling in Cold Weather within the Dodge Dart 1.4L MultiAir Turbo forums, part of the Dodge Dart Garage - The Mopar Zone category; Well, it still has the original sputtering/stuttering issue. Drove it to work this morning with temps around 59 outside, still sputtering. With the weather how ...

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      Well, it still has the original sputtering/stuttering issue. Drove it to work this morning with temps around 59 outside, still sputtering. With the weather how it is now, it's not bad (certainly not as bad as it was when it was 30 degrees out) but it is still noticeable and it clears up once it gets warmed up. I think my next step is going to be taking it to the dealership. Not sure how other dealerships are but the one here seems to be behind so I have to make an appointment and it is usually a week or two wait.
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      @youwish16 interested in what you come up with. I have the same issue, but have wrote it off as a result of my tune. If your not running a tune, them i'm definitely having the same issue

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      Quote Originally Posted by jsblanch View Post
      I believe the earlier 2013 models had an older revision of the coil pack that is more prone to failure. At some point during the 2013 model year, I think they switched from 68081914AB to 68081914AC. I don't think I've seen anybody have to replace their coil packs on a 2014 or later Dart.
      I have! I own a 2015 Aero (please see the signature below for all the mods) But I was having very similar issues as the OP and others here... I figured it was a mix of both the cold weather and the coils getting to that point where they were going bad... MY opinion on this subject is that (if you are running a tune) the increased strain on the coils to put out more electricity is causing premature wear and breakdown... That being said, I do have the Alfa Romeo 4C Bosch coils and have NOT had any issues with them what so ever thus far! Actually, I can feel a pretty big difference... The best way I can explain the difference is the flow of power is much smoother... like if you squeezed a garden hose (stock coils) then let it go and the water started coming out easier (Bosch coils)... It feels like the coils are less resistive and allow the electricity to move through them easier and cause a larger spark and better combustion! I cant wait till the spring to put on my lighter rims and the Brisk plugs with my stronger tune!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Firefightertom32 View Post
      @youwish16 interested in what you come up with. I have the same issue, but have wrote it off as a result of my tune. If your not running a tune, them i'm definitely having the same issue
      I'll keep this post update. I have been to busy lately and haven't made an appointment at the dealer yet. Hoping to get it in within the next week or two. As for the tune, it's stock. Only things not stock are forge plate and K&N air filter (which I installed a few days ago).

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      I have! I own a 2015 Aero (please see the signature below for all the mods) But I was having very similar issues as the OP and others here... I figured it was a mix of both the cold weather and the coils getting to that point where they were going bad... MY opinion on this subject is that (if you are running a tune) the increased strain on the coils to put out more electricity is causing premature wear and breakdown... That being said, I do have the Alfa Romeo 4C Bosch coils and have NOT had any issues with them what so ever thus far! Actually, I can feel a pretty big difference... The best way I can explain the difference is the flow of power is much smoother... like if you squeezed a garden hose (stock coils) then let it go and the water started coming out easier (Bosch coils)... It feels like the coils are less resistive and allow the electricity to move through them easier and cause a larger spark and better combustion! I cant wait till the spring to put on my lighter rims and the Brisk plugs with my stronger tune!
      You have a part number on those coils?
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      Quote Originally Posted by youwish16 View Post
      You have a part number on those coils?
      I do not... BUT what I do have is the next best thing... where I bought them from!

      https://shopeurocompulsion.net/colle...-4c-coil-packs
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      I had something similar last year. I cannot be certain if it was both of these, or just one.... I took the coil packs out, and noticed some soot on the inside. Turns out one of the plugs was just so slightly loose that it was leaking around the seal, and I also cleaned the coil packs on the inside. After cleaning up the plugs and the coil packs, it was just fine. So could have been the soot and dirty coils, or could have been the slight loss of compression when it was cold and the plugs weren't fully sealed. I lean towards the latter, but there was a lot of soot in there too.
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      Quote Originally Posted by SylenThunder View Post
      I had something similar last year. I cannot be certain if it was both of these, or just one.... I took the coil packs out, and noticed some soot on the inside. Turns out one of the plugs was just so slightly loose that it was leaking around the seal, and I also cleaned the coil packs on the inside. After cleaning up the plugs and the coil packs, it was just fine. So could have been the soot and dirty coils, or could have been the slight loss of compression when it was cold and the plugs weren't fully sealed. I lean towards the latter, but there was a lot of soot in there too.
      I actually did check that a few times.

      I finally set an appt for tomorrow morning to take my car to the dealership. Talking to the service guy today, he was asking me questions about the battery. Could it possibly be a bad battery? I have no issues starting the car, even when it is extremely cold out. If he does think it is the battery, wonder if he will say something about my 300w amp.
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      Quote Originally Posted by youwish16 View Post
      I actually did check that a few times.

      I finally set an appt for tomorrow morning to take my car to the dealership. Talking to the service guy today, he was asking me questions about the battery. Could it possibly be a bad battery? I have no issues starting the car, even when it is extremely cold out. If he does think it is the battery, wonder if he will say something about my 300w amp.
      I dont think its the battery, he might have mentioned that due to the large amount of dead batteries that they have been seeing lately... Let us know what they say!
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      Ok, just got off the phone with the service advisor. After looking at my car today, they seem to think the issue is due to low oil level. The oil was changed about 2500 miles ago, used 4 quarts of Amsoil 5w40 and a new oil filter (done by my father who is a mechanic). As I mentioned before, there has been no CEL, no low oil pressure/oil level lights or anything. The service advisor told me they cleaned the engine up, topped it off with oil and put dye in the oil to see where it is leaking. I am supposed to drive it for about 200-300 miles then take it back in.
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      Quote Originally Posted by youwish16 View Post
      Ok, just got off the phone with the service advisor. After looking at my car today, they seem to think the issue is due to low oil level. The oil was changed about 2500 miles ago, used 4 quarts of Amsoil 5w40 and a new oil filter (done by my father who is a mechanic). As I mentioned before, there has been no CEL, no low oil pressure/oil level lights or anything. The service advisor told me they cleaned the engine up, topped it off with oil and put dye in the oil to see where it is leaking. I am supposed to drive it for about 200-300 miles then take it back in.
      I hope they are at least doing this all for free?
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      - 17"x 7" Konig Control Matte Black Rims
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